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hpr4008 :: Sextortion. Good Heavens!

Sgoti talks about sextortion.

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Hosted by Some Guy On The Internet on Wednesday, 2023-12-13 is flagged as Explicit and is released under a CC-BY-SA license.
Sextortion, FBI help, Blackmail. 10.
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Comment #1 posted on 2023-12-13 02:50:31 by Another Guy on the internet

This show is very opinionated

The nice thing about podcasts and radio is that you can monologue whatever nonsense you like and act like it is the single truth in the universe. That is exactly what is going on this show. First there is some useful information about sextortion, the forms it manifests in and consequences it can have in real life, that's the good stuff.
Then comes the bad and the straight-out ugly bit. While the speaker starts of with a pretty factual analysis, eventually he slides into a very much opinionated stance against any form of digital eroticism. Don't do ***** kids! Where have we heard that before, right?
Seriously, if you are an adult having a problem with the fact that people exchange nudes in their sexual discovery journey then that is just your own moral problem, do not project that on the rest of the world please. People have done that about sex, drugs, music, religious believes, cultural habits, and pretty much everything we humans design to entertain ourselves and to carry out our identity into the world. Saying "Don't do that" really is totally random moral stance since what is found to be offensive in your part of the world might be totally innocent behavior where I live and vice versa.
So, again, because repetition seems to work for Coca-Cola: don't project your own random moral objections onto the world. They are legit, they are rightfully yours to keep. But don't try to push them further than that, because that's just randomly stupid.

Comment #2 posted on 2023-12-13 10:25:35 by hpr listener

Poor quality.

SGOTY.
Up to this point, your shows have been of good quality and well considered.

I will preface this with the fact that yes, sexstortion is something that exists. Observing some basic safety measures when using the internet could easily prevent it. It is a societal problem in, especially in the age of social media.

This show however, was a hideous disappointment.

Utterly condescending to other human beings, particularly victims of this. Moral-panic ridden pearl clutching nonsense.

You opted not to :-
Actually speak with any victim of the phenomenon about their lived experience.

Nor did you cite any *actual* subject matter expert, such as Eva Galperin (Cybersecurity director at the EFF, works with sextortion victims), Violet Blue (an author and journalist who covers the phenomenon and adjacent social/tech matters extensively)

Your sources amount to :-

The FBI, a government agency known globally for utter incompetence in understanding social phenomena, and known to frequently lie to further its own, often ill-considered goals.

and Reddit. REDDIT.

Thats a fairly clear cut case of source bias.

Repeated mentions of 'evidence' that you opt not to cite directly or clearly.

Nothing whatsoever besides moral grandstanding and a baseless belief you have any right to tell others how to conduct their personal lives.

Seriously, DO. BETTER.

Comment #3 posted on 2023-12-14 19:22:07 by Some Guy on the Internet

RE: This show is very opinionated.

Thank you Another Guy on the internet.
This comment would make a great show. Please offer us a show correcting all the issues with my show. I’m sure we’d all enjoy it.
Thanks again.
Some Guy on the Internet.

Comment #4 posted on 2023-12-14 19:24:18 by Some Guy on the Internet

RE: Poor quality.

Thank you hpr listener.
Sounds like you’ve got some great information on the subject. As everyone knows, I’m no expert, but you seem to have more to say on the topic. I’d enjoy hearing more about it; maybe other would as well. Please do a show providing us with better information on the topic.

Thanks again,
Some Guy on the Internet.

Comment #5 posted on 2023-12-16 23:04:01 by hpr listener

RE: Poor quality.

No SGOTI.

I do not have anything to say on the topic, because I admit, I am not a victim of the phenomenon mentioned, nor am I a subject matter expert.

I have the humility, good sense, respect for and decency toward actual victims of the phenomenon to state that.

You however did not.

This is not a 'make your comment an episode' occasion.

This is a 'SGOTI makes a short episode apologising to the community for misconduct, does some actual research (not on reddit or incompetent government agency websites) and points to those sources' occasion.

Its something YOU need to do and correct yourself, nobody else.

Comment #6 posted on 2023-12-17 08:45:46 by Ken Fallon

Opinions are allowed on HPR

HPR's motto is literally "Your ideas, projects, opinions - podcasted."

SCOTI your follow up show was sufficient response, the commenter is trolling at this point.

Comment #7 posted on 2023-12-17 09:45:39 by Bob

Great Show

Hi SCOTI,

Great show. While I am shocked that US employers would do what you suggest, I'm also not naive enough suggest that they would not do it.

I also empathize with the commentators points, but would just say that just because the situation is not how you would like it to be, doesn't mean that that is not how it is.

Quoting the FBI is fine as they do have a responsible for child safety https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/violent-crime/vcac

Thanks for the show

Bob

Comment #8 posted on 2023-12-18 12:27:02 by X

You missed some points

Hi SGOTI

You missed the risk of ending up on a child sex offenders list.

There the GDPR is not applicable, as most jurisdictions there are required to keep records for 20 years.

Any job that involves interaction with the public, requires a background check.

While that just provides a pass or not, you still are excluded from many public and private sector jobs.

X

Comment #9 posted on 2023-12-18 13:13:41 by Kevin O'Brien

Great show

SGOTI, If you don't occasionally piss off someone it means you aren't saying anything worth listening to.

Comment #10 posted on 2023-12-20 12:06:44 by Another Guy On The Internet

Controversy is a good thing

In follow up to my initial comment and in counter-balance to the other somewhat harsh comments on this piece: I do appreciate the fact that you brought some controversy to this place. Having discussion is a good thing, and having different views on subjects is a prerequisite for that. So, in any way, SGOTI, although I indeed have a problem with how fact and opinion got mixed up in the episode, I still appreciate you made this show and looking at the amount of comments you actually earn some kudos to bring some more life in this place ;-)
Cheers,
AGOTI

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