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hpr4244 :: Two methods of digitizing photos.

A brief discussion about two methods of digitizing analog photos.

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Hosted by Henrik Hemrin on Thursday, 2024-11-07 is flagged as Clean and is released under a CC-BY-SA license.
photography, digitize, digitizing, scanner, reproduction, repro. 6.
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Duration: 00:08:15

general.

Today I will talk about digitizing analog photos. I will talk about two methods.

I have scanners from different manufacturers, flat bed scanner and dedicated film scanner. Each scanner is delivered with software. Each software is generally good. But it is a problem to manage several software. Secondly, none of them works for Linux operating system. I wanted to simplify my software learning, so I wanted one software for all my existing and any future scanner. Secondly I intended to migrate to a Linux operating system, which I now have done.

Those two requirements lead me to switch over to VueScan software. I had tested VueScan before and also gotten recommendations from photographic friends. VueScan is a proprietary software made by a small family run company. It’s available for Linux, Windows and macOS. VueScan supports very many hardware scanners. I do not know about any better software for Linux and is maybe also the best choice for any operating system. I do not regret my switch to VueScan.

A second method to digitize photos is reproduction with a camera. That is to use a camera to shoot a photo of the photo.

Some say it is the superior technology. I don’t know. But as I am coming from the scanning technology and starting to explore the repro technology, I will give my early thoughts from that perspective.

My initial plan has been to use repro photography for prints that are glued into albums and therefore difficult to manage in the scanner. It is also an excellent method to digitize other papers in book format. But I have not really started to do that.

However, a while ago I started to look into 6x9 cm negatives. My scanner can just manage 6x9. But I do not have a fixture for 6x9. So it is both somewhat tricky to position the negative as well as to keep it flat. A thin plexiglass plate might be possible to use to keep it flat. Even without plexiglass, I have tested I can get well acceptable result with the scanner.

I started to try out the repro method. I have not come so far in my trials that I can decide which is the best method for me.

My camera is a modest camera compared to state of the art. My flat bed scanner should give better or comparable resolution than my modest digital camera. The fixture I have for repro do not keep the negative fully flat, because 6x9 is a rather big size. So I plan to explore if I can improve quality with a plexiglass plate above the negative.

An issue with the repro method is to keep all angles in control, to mount the camera in exactly correct angle in relation to the object. Focus can also be another issue. I consider it is better to use manual focus rather than auto focus. When I take the repro photos, I have the camera connected to a laptop and I use the Entangle software to control the camera settings. I can use the camera live view to position the object as well as to focus.

I use RawTherapee software to convert the negative photo to a normal photo. RawTherapee comes with pre-installed profiles for this process. The default profile values can be adjusted and also stored as new personal profiles.

A major advantage of the repro method compared to the scanner method is the speed. Once all is configured, it takes one hundred of a second or so to do the digitize itself, while it can take minutes with the scanner.

I use digiKam as my photo catalog software.

All software I currently use with the exception of VueScan are free and open source. I use all on Linux operating system, some of them are available on other platforms. I include links to their websites in the show notes.

If you have any opinion or experience on digitizing analog photos, I will be happy to read your comments or listen to your show.

Software

VueScan: https://www.hamrick.com/

Entangle: https://entangle-photo.org/

RawTherapee: https://rawtherapee.com/

digiKam: https://www.digikam.org/


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Comment #1 posted on 2024-11-07 08:14:02 by Henrik Hemrin

Clarification equipment for repro photo

Remark on my repro setup:

My digital camera is mounted on a repro stand. The stand is similar to the stand used in an analog darkroom.

The "duplication direction" is opposite to the analog darkroom: The camera is mounted on the stand, while the object to be duplicated is placed on the base plate.

I have a light table on the base plate when a negative or positive is duplicated.

Mounted on the camera, depending on lens, may an extension tube be needed to achieve the macro distance to duplicate a small object.

Comment #2 posted on 2024-11-07 09:08:59 by Ken Fallon

What hardware are you using

Hi Henrik

Did you already go over the hardware you have and used ?

Ken

Comment #3 posted on 2024-11-07 10:48:34 by Henrik Hemrin

Response to Ken

Yes Ken, it is all about hardware I have.

The plexiglass is the only hw I have not tested; I have purchased one but not tried yet how it would work in the scanner or repro. I tested a thick glass plate for repro first, a plate intended to put under bottles, that plate was not optimal in any way.

But else, yes, have and used, work in progress to conclude what I believe is best method, settings etc for my needs and equipment. What I know is I get good quality with both methods.

Comment #4 posted on 2024-11-08 13:22:31 by Charles in NJ

Missed this show because feed is broken

I liked this show, but I almost missed it. My bashpodder-based podcast handler is no longer working for HPR. Instead of getting the current episodes, it downloads a file called "ccdn.php". This is not useful. If I can fix this, I may record a show to describe how I did it. But if it takes too much time or trouble, I may quietly fade away.

Sorry to put this in such stark terms, but I have a lot of things to juggle these days. Fussing over the HPR feed is not something I have time to do.

Charles in NJ

Comment #5 posted on 2024-11-08 18:12:49 by Ken Fallon

Bug Report

Hi Charles in NJ,

I opened a bug report for this issue.

https://repo.anhonesthost.net/HPR/hpr_hub/issues/61

Ken

Comment #6 posted on 2024-11-09 13:16:49 by Ken Fallon

Please send me your version of bashpodder

Hi Charles,

I downloaded bashpodder from bashpodder gothub repo, copiedhttps://hackerpublicradio.org/hpr_ogg_rss.php > bp.conf.

When I ran it, it downloaded the entire list without issue.

See https://repo.anhonesthost.net/HPR/hpr_hub/issues/61#issuecomment-1922

Can you send me a zip of the bashpodder instance you are running as well as the following:

sed --version
wget --version
xsltproc --version

Thanks.

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